Sunday, 27 December 2015

Is Doctor Who still for kids?

"Blah, blah, blah, blah!"

I was discussing Doctor Who (as I often do) with my sister today and she told me she hadn't enjoyed the past two series very much. My sister has always been a fan of the show since it's 2005 revival, albeit a casual "Saturday night telly" kind of fan rather than a scarf-wearing, DVD owning "moaning about it on the internet" kind of fan like myself. My sister remarked that my seven year old niece doesn't watch it much any more as "she doesn't understand it". I was about to launch into my well-rehearsed and spirited defense of the show when my niece actually chipped in to correct my sister.

"I do understand it, it's just boring. All they do is talk, and talk, and talk."

It wasn't the fact that she didn't like it any more that worried me. After all, kids go off stuff all the time. It was the reason she'd gone off it that worried me. "It's boring." Doctor Who should not be making kids bored! Now I'm not claiming that my niece is representative of all children in the UK. But it's hard to deny that the tone of the show has changed over the past few series. Is the show getting too 'talky'? Is Doctor Who in danger of losing what has always been the most important part of it's audience - kids?

Once upon a time, Russell T. Davies' era as head writer (2005-2010) was full of rousing speeches and emotional exchanges, but it was always balanced with a healthy dose of explosions, running, and visual humour. The Doctor's emotional farewell to Rose at the end of series 2 for example came only after a tense, climactic battle between the Daleks and the Cybermen which resulted in them all getting sucked into a big, inter-dimensional hole. The Doctor and The Master had many a character defining back and forth at the end of series 3, but it was all centred around a very visceral victory for The Doctor, as the prayers of the world transformed him from a wizened goblin into a shining, floating saviour. (Hey, I'm not saying it made sense, just that it was visually exciting.)

Compare those climaxes to the end of series 8 or 9. Series 8 finishes mainly with a lengthy conversation in a graveyard. The army of Cybermen don't actually do anything apart from explode in the sky and Missy is dispatched by a Cyberman who we're told is a character who is only significant to viewers familiar with the classic series. Series 9 ended with a long talk about feelings between Clara and The Doctor, followed by The Doctor losing his memory for vague reasons, followed by another talk about feelings between The Doctor and Clara, this time in a diner. It's not exactly the stuff kids dreams are made of is it. Of course, the RTD era was full of long talks about feelings too, but they were always balanced with action, and visual thrills, and I don't think that's still the case.

If you think that this criticism means that I hate current head writer Steven Moffat's era of Doctor Who you couldn't be more wrong. I have absolutely loved the past two series and Peter Capaldi has swiftly entered my list of top five favourite ever Doctors. I've found Series 9 to be particularly enjoyable, with The Doctor's impassioned anti-war speech in The Zygon Inversion and Peter Capaldi's solo performance in Heaven Sent among my favourite moments.

But I'm a 34 year old man and when it comes to Doctor Who my opinion should not be a priority!

Doctor Who is a family show, it always has been. It's not something for nerds like me to watch alone in our bedrooms and then bitch about on our blogs (much like I'm doing now). It's something for families, like my sister and her kids, to watch together. If you target the families then nerds like me will still watch it, but if you target nerds like me you lose the families. If you target families then the kids grow up and watch it with their kids, and the show endures, as it should!

The weird thing is, Steven Moffat knows all this! In one interview to promote the show's 50th Anniversary he remarked
"I love Doctor Who fans, and I am a Doctor Who fan, but the show is not targeted at them. And to be fair most of them say: 'For God's sake don't make it for us.' They want it to be successful. They don't want it to be a niche thing, because then it would die."
Why then would the man who said this fill his episodes with emotionally charged, character driven speeches that are perfect for fans who want actors to reenact them at conventions but not so great for retaining the attention of your average 7-8 year old? Again, I'm not saying that these speeches shouldn't be there, but for god's sake, let's have an explosion and some running straight after it.

I must emphasise that I'm not one of these critics who say that kids can't follow Steven Moffat's labyrinthine plots. As Moffat has rightly said "We're dealing with children who can read long, complicated books while tweeting and playing computer games all at the same time. You've got to be ahead of them." So I'm definitely not saying that the show should dumb down, or that kids only like explosions. I'm just saying that for the past couple of series, Doctor Who has put exposition and emotional character moments above action and it means that the show may be in danger of losing it's younger audience.

An impassioned speech about the horrors of war is great, but it's not going to resonate with a child in the same way as it is with an adult. Is it possible to make it the centrepiece of an entire episode and retain the interest of your younger audiences? I'm not so sure it is. Why can't we have the best of both worlds? Something emotionally resonant for the older fans to immortalise in gif and meme form AND something for the younger fans to reenact in the playground. Russell T. Davies managed it for four series and a bunch of specials. With episodes such as The Eleventh Hour, and Day of the Doctor, Moffat has managed it too, and I'd love to see him keep on doing it.

I've really loved series 8 & 9, but the moment Doctor Who becomes all about people like me is, as Moffat has said, the moment it dies. With the BBC insisting on scheduling the show at later, less appropriate times it's more important than ever that Doctor Who keeps the kids. Doctor Who must endure and it will only do so by attracting the whole family, not just the uncles.

Thursday, 24 December 2015

Monday, 21 December 2015

The Best Stuff of 2015 (according to me)

(Click here for The Best Stuff of 2014)

Best comic of 2015: 
Dan Jurgens & Lee Weeks' Superman: Lois & Clark

Only two issues in and I just love this book!

The New 52 has given us some brilliant Superman stories (as well as some stinkers). But this book, which features the pre-reboot versions of the titular characters, hearkens back to the days when the Super-books had the one thing the New 52 Superman has been lacking - consistency! Consistency of tone, characterisation, and quality. This book feels like it's come straight out of those days! Jurgens has really made me feel like I'm meeting two old friends again for the first time in years, and Weeks' art is beautiful. But that's not to say that Lois & Clark is just a big nostalgia wank-fest. The characters have moved forward since the '90s; not only are they trapped in a world they never made but they're raising a son too! They're currently trying to keep their heads down so as not to be mistaken for their New 52 counterparts while also trying to use their knowledge of their world's events to avert future threats before they happen. That's quite a clever, compelling status quo that will hopefully hook a few newer Superfans as well as 80s/90s kids like me. But, as I said, we're only two issues in. Will this series be able to maintain the consistency of the era that inspired it?

Runner Up:

There's no sign of the quality dipping on last year's entry in this slot. Scott Snyder & Greg Capullo may have put Jim Gordon in the Bat-Suit, but they're still managing to keep us immersed in a new Bat-Golden Age!

Most underrated comic of 2015:
Benjamin Percy and Patrick Zircher's Green Arrow

When the fantastic writer/artist team of Jeff Lemire and Andrea Sorrentino left Green Arrow it seemed that DC were going to let the book fade into mediocrity once again. Luckily Percy and Zircher soon came on board and gave us a mature, and unique take on Oliver Queen that's wonderful to look at and feels just like the legendary Mike Grell run of the '80s. The character of Oliver Queen has never been portrayed this young in a contemporary setting, and yet I recognise him. He seems just as Grell's middle-aged Oliver would seem if he had been a young man. The whole macabre, flirting-with-the-supernatural tone of the book feels exactly like a Vertigo book from the early days of Sandman, Hellblazer, Doom Patrol, & Books of Magic. And yet bizarrely, I hardly ever see anyone talking about this book, and there are even rumours that it's facing cancellation. If this is true it's a damn shame.

Best event of 2015: 
Jonathan Hickman & Esad Ribic's Secret Wars

This series has yet to finish as it's been plagued with delays, but it's worth the wait. I originally wasn't going to bother with it as I'd found Hickman's build up to this event in Avengers and New Avengers to be an admirable but complex and depressing experience. About half way through Secret Wars I realised that it was basically the "final" Fantastic Four story disguised as a Marvelwide event and so I quickly caught up and haven't regretted it. It's a testament to Hickman's writing that I feel I can follow his story quite easily without having read the years of build up and multiple tie ins. Also, Ribic's art is beautiful and fits the story perfectly. Sometimes it's murky and dreamlike, a style that's entirely appropriate for a planet of 'What-If's held together by the imagination of a madman. On other occasions it's full of cold, hard detail, like the now famous panel that depicts Dr Doom's scarred face for the first time ever. Late it may be, but Secret Wars is also the best Marvel event since Civil War.

Runner up:
Paul Cornell & Neil Edwards' Doctor Who: Four Doctors

After reading the first issue I dismissed this series as "a fan-wanky mess of bickering Doctors." I'm glad I gave it a second chance. Once the separate voices of the different Doctors start to emerge it's actually loads of fun.

Most disappointing comic of 2015: 
Superman - Truth

Like last year's entry for this slot, Superman- Doomed, this arc started off well. Extremely well in fact. Greg Pak and Aaron Kuder's Action Comics chapters in particular were full of wonderful moments, including Superman playing with the children of a Metropolis neighbourhood, before protecting that neighbourhood from police brutality in a spectacular fashion. Meanwhile, over in the main Superman title Gene Luen Yang gave us lots of focus on Lois and Jimmy, something that's been missing for a while. Like Doomed however Truth has pretty much said all it has to say and now seems to be repeating the same beats over and over, waiting for March when the story is set to conclude. There's only so many times you can see Superman punch a shadow demon, or seethe in frustration at his current predicament. Worse still, Superman's been possessed by shadow demons over in Action, leaving us with exactly the same tired old "" stuff we got sick of in Doomed. This story arc is actually a great idea, but like Doomed it needs to have been tightened up instead of dragged out. Having said that, Howard Porter has taken over art duties on Superman and he's phenomenally good, so it's not all bad.

Best Comic Book Film of 2015: 

Both Ant Man and Avengers: Age of Ultron were two of the weaker entries in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but both were still lots of fun, and Ant Man in particular seemed a lot better on second viewing without the weight of expectation. Tragically Fantastic Four seems like it could have been better than both of them had it not been butchered by Fox.

Best non-comics related film of 2015: 

Even if the rest of the film was rubbish, the opening scene alone would make this one of the best films of the year. Thankfully the rest of the film isn't rubbish. Far from it! This film combines the best aspects of Daniel Craig era Bond with the best aspects of "classic" Bond. It feels like Skyfall and You Only Live Twice have been spliced together by an expert to make a Bond fan's dream film. It was such a high-note for Craig to end on that I actually hope he doesn't come back for one more, despite the fact that he's absolutely perfect as Bond.

Runner Up:
The Martian

Such an amazing film! It blew me away. I love how the message of the film is essentially, the human race is awesome. Yeah, a lot of what we do is horrible but we do amazing things too.

Best TV show of 2015:
Doctor Who

I almost didn't put Doctor Who in this slot this year (see the Runners Up) but then I remembered two things:
1. DAVROS!!! He's my favourite Who villain and I had no idea he was coming back, it was a wonderful surprise. Davros' two-parter allowed Peter Capaldi and Julian Bleach to have an extended Doctor/Davros face off that really highlighted the strengths of the actors and the characters. Jenna Coleman's Clara and Michelle Gomez' Missy also made a very entertaining double act.
2. Heaven Sent. What an episode! Arguably the greatest actor to play the Doctor gets an episode all to himself, with a plot that builds up the momentum beautifully to an elegant and satisfying climax.

Runners Up: 
Daredevil and Jessica Jones

Arrow, The Flash, and Gotham may be soapy and fun, but Daredevil and Jessica Jones are the real thing. Proper grown up telly! The Breaking Bad of superhero shows. Both are brilliant in different ways. Daredevil has the most thrilling action scenes and the most cathartic climax, but Jessica Jones has the most powerful characters. David Tennant's Kilgrave is a particularly superb character. He embodies male entitlement, rape culture, and even depression itself, all in one horrific package.

Best things I discovered in 2015 that everybody else already knew about:
Tim Seeley, Tom King, and Mikel Janín's Grayson

Wow! The critics weren't lying about this were they?! Grayson is something quite special. I recommend it to anyone who likes spy stuff, superhero stuff, Batman/Nightwing stuff or just tightly written, superbly drawn comics with an engaging, likeable lead character.

Best things I did in 2015:

I met Colin Baker, Peter Purves and Nicola Bryant. I had a long chat with a brilliant comics artist, Lew Stringer, who drew me Suicidal Syd from Viz. I met three real life superheroes.  I got Margot Kidder's autograph. I went to a Morrissey concert and he was on top form. I sort of went viral with a Youtube video I made. Then I did it again. I argued with a comics creator on Twitter. It's been a pretty good year.

In 2016 I'm moving to Bristol and Batman V Superman is out, so if Western Civilization doesn't collapse it should be a great year.

What have been your geeky highlights and lowlights of 2015?

Friday, 18 December 2015

I asked an economist if he'd vote for President Superman

In Action Comics Annual #3 (1991) the time travelling super-hero known as Waverider takes a peek into Superman's future and witnesses the Man of Steel getting elected President in 2001. It turns out baby Kal-El was technically born on American soil as his Kryptonian Birthing Matrix opened up on Earth, and so he's perfectly entitled to run for President.

Waverider is investigating the possibility of Superman becoming the futuristic tyrant known as Monarch, and as a result the threat of him being corrupted by his new found political powers hangs over the story. Ultimately however Superman ends up being a pretty good President and leads the United States into a bright, hopeful future.

I was curious as to whether Superman's policies, as laid out in this story, would actually benefit the USA and the rest of the world in real life. Would Superman actually be a good President, or would he be just as crappy as all us lousy humans at deciding the world's fate?

And so I asked a respected economist!

John Phelan has a MSc in Economic History from the London School of Economics. He is a Fellow of The Cobden Centre and has written about economics and politics for The Wall Street Journal, The Wall Street Journal Europe, Standpoint, Economic Affairs, Conservative Home, London Student, City AM, Global Politics and openDemocracy.

He almost certainly has better things to do but nevertheless kindly allowed me to grill him on what effect a fictional alien would have on the US economy!

Me: John, while in office Superman begins to solve America's economic problems by salvaging US gold lost at sea. Aquaman helps him of course.

John: Why would finding a load of gold help? I'd need to know more, but if it's for monetary use, all you'd have would be inflation - look at the Spanish Empire.

The comic says that it's part of Superman's "all out war on the deficit". It also claims that adding the Gold to "the Nation's coffers" causes "the US trade deficit to drop". It says "the overall benefit to the economy will be slow but should be steady if the President continues to deliver." 

So the gold goes into 'reserves' and becomes part of the monetary base of the United States. Depending on what the bank(s) holding these reserves do, they either sit on it, in which case it has no effect at all, or they use as a base to expand credit, in which case you just get rising prices.

I don't see how it helps the deficit. The US could, I suppose, use it to pay its expenses and avoid some borrowing, but, again, that would just be inflationary.

As I say, the Spanish Empire grabbed America and all the gold therein. They thought they were sorted because they had lots of new money. But they didn't have lots of new stuff to spend it on so prices just went up - inflation. They sank back as a world power after that. That's a pretty exact example of just this happening.

The trade deficit is just the excess of the value of what you import over the value of what you export. It isn't actually a problem - would you be concerned if you were getting £300 of stuff in return for £200 of stuff?

Again, though, I fail to see how a bunch of new gold would help. You ship it abroad to cover the trade deficit? Might work for a couple of years, then what?

Superman says "we will of course be making such deposits gradually so as not to affect world markets."

Gradually? Supes has just announced the find to the whole planet! The gold price would crash in anticipation of the full amount coming on the market even if just a little bit actually was released.

Look to when Gordon Brown flogged Britain's gold for a pretty exact historical parallel.

President Superman launches orbiting solar power stations that "free us all from the economic tyrrany of fossil fuels". He "diverts petro-chemicals into the manufacturing of useful, long lived, recyclable products". He also shares the solar tech with "the developing nations of the world".

What were the resources which Supes puts into making these "orbiting solar power stations" doing before? Making cars? Beds? Jenga? The price of all those things will rise and less of them will be consumed. You might think this worthwhile, that's a positive rather than a normative question.

Do you think sharing his solar satellites with developing nations so they can, in Superman's words "grow and prosper without the awful squandering of their natural resources" would work?

Possibly, but it depends on what basis. If you give the same amount of power to someone in Ghana and someone in the US, the Ghanaian is going to have a load of excess power and the Yank is going to find their life grind to a halt.
President Superman is shown learning the language and Holy scriptures of other world leaders while negotiating with them. (The narrator of the story acknowledges that despite Superman's attempts at peaceful negotiation there is a threat implicit in the fact that he's so powerful.)

Best of luck to him.

Does Supes have powers that would enable him to learn a language quicker than an Earthling?

In the 1950s and '60s he had a super-memory, but by the '90s he was a little less powerful so I think it would take him the same time as us to learn them.

Well, economists often think in terms of constrained maximisation - you have a set amount of money and you have to allocate it between a set of different things so as to maximise your satisfaction (utility, in the jargon) derived from those different things. But we aren't just money constrained, we are time constrained as well. We have a fixed amount of time, a budget, to allocate between different activities so as to maximise our utility. Now, if Supes could learn another language in an instant, he might as well do so. But if he can't, if it takes time, then he has to spend time on that that he could be spending on something else - foiling Lex Luthor's plans, for example. If Lex Luthor, or some as dastardly, was up to something heinous, would it not be a more sensible allocation of Superman's time budget to foil that scheme and leave the translation to some spotty graduate with a BA in Arabic? Opportunity cost is, perhaps, the key thing there.

Superman also has a policy of global disarmament enforced by an army of superheroes!

How Nietzschean.

Yeah, that one's a bit scary.

That's why I liked Batman.

What did you think of that panel where Lex Luthor gets arrested after that guy with a wire records him plotting? Is that even legal?

Depends what he's plotting, Luthor is an evil chap. But it is all very creepy to a libertarian type like me. Every loon from Plato on has longed for a race of super beings to rule us base mortals. Trouble is, absent super beings, other base mortals end up trying to do it and you end up with some of the darkest episodes in human history.

Would you vote for Superman based on these policies? What party do you think he would belong to? 

He's obviously a Democrat of the Bernie Sanders stripe, or a sort of William Jennings Bryan Populist. Whether I'd vote for it would depend on who else was running, but it would take a hell of a lot for me to vote for this stuff.

Sunday, 6 December 2015

John Byrne: "Gerroff my land!"

John Byrne is one of the greatest comic book artists of all time and one of my personal favourite comic creators. A groundbreaking collaboration on Uncanny X-Men with Chris Claremont and work on Fantastic Four and Superman that defined the characters for a generation are just a few of his accomplishments. He is a genius.

He is also a deeply unpleasant man who embodies everything that's wrong with comic fans. Or at least that's how he comes across online.

When Byrne isn't angrily lamenting the fact that superhero comics aren't exactly how they were when he was a child he's usually slagging off everybody in the comics industry who isn't Stan Lee or Jack Kirby, or bandying the N word around in a conversation about speech bubbles, or saying Hispanic and Latino women with blond hair look "like hookers", or comparing trans people with pedophiles. You get the picture. Byrne seems to live for disagreement and conflict. On one hilarious occasion he accidentally started an argument with himself!

He can usually be found on his online Forum, surrounded by fans who fall over themselves to agree with everything he says. Those who dare disagree with the great JB are swiftly given the boot and banned from the Forum.

Byrne is currently working on a Star Trek comic that he illustrates by cutting and pasting old photos together. It seems that he's so passionate about keeping the fictional characters he loves exactly how they were when he first encountered them that he can't bring himself to even draw them anymore, (at least not in any form other than private commissions). It's a shame since he's a truly excellent artist.

In Star Trek: New Visions #7 Byrne demonstrated a level of self-awareness that I wouldn't have credited him with and cast himself as a cranky old hermit, threatening those who strayed on to his land with a gun. Amusingly this panel featuring Byrne the hermit seems to go nicely with pretty much any JB quote you'd care to fit into his speech bubbles (or is it balloons?):

I recommend Byrne's Wiki-quote page for further insights into the mind of this fascinating, frustrating man.

I also recommend JohnByrneSays on Twitter. It's run by a brave individual who scours Byrne's Forum so you don't have to, and regularly shares Byrne's pearls of wisdom in tweet form. He also shares Byrne's amazing art on Tumblr, and is a thoroughly nice man, so give him a follow.

Of course you should also check out Byrne's work. His creator owned series, John Byrne's Next Men is fantastic. It explores the dark side of the super-hero and time travel genres whilst simultaneously celebrating everything that's fun about them. His early Uncanny X-Men work, his Fantastic Four run, and his work on Avengers West Coast and She-Hulk are pure superhero fun, and I've written before about how much I love his Superman work.

Check out his work, it's amazing, but it's probably best to give the man himself a wide berth.

Sunday, 29 November 2015

Is this the plot of the new Wonder Woman movie?

This might sound crazy, but I think my friend and I accidentally predicted the plot of the Wonder Woman movie! In 2011 my pal Madeley and I came up with an alternate pitch for Wonder Woman's New 52 reboot, (purely for fanboy fun of course). The little bits of information we've been getting recently about the upcoming 2017 movie seem to strangely echo some of our predictions.

We "pitched" a Wonder Woman who's life spanned the 20th Century. In World War II she was a propaganda tool for the allies and a myth of the battlefield for the enemies.
Wounded, rambling, shell shocked Nazis describe a fearsome female warrior racing towards them on horseback, leading American soldiers up the beach, deflecting machine gun bullets with her bracelets and cutting down their fellow soldiers with her sword.
We said that Steve Trevor would be the man who introduces her to the US Government and gets her involved in the war.

Pictures taken of the filming of the upcoming movie have recently appeared on Heroic Hollywood. They seem to show that it's set during World War I. Wonder Woman (Gal Gadot), dressed in period costume, appears to be moving among the soldiers, as if she were with them. Steve Trevor (Chris Pine) is one of these soldiers.

Ok, we got the wrong war, but these pictures still points towards something pretty similar to our pitch. And the potential image of Wonder Woman on horseback, leading soldiers across No Man's Land is a compelling one.

We also suggested that by the present day Wonder Woman should have become a company director.
Diana is still combating evil, but this time as a corporate raider, taking over and gutting corrupt businesses and using their resources for good. She opens a string of women's shelters.
We've seen several pictures on and of Wonder Woman in next year's Batman V Superman. She is seen in a smart, white suit as well as in an evening gown, dancing with Bruce Wayne (Ben Affleck). While they do not necessarily prove anything these images certainly seem to fit with our "corporate raider" theory.

Finally my friend and I suggested that after a century of trying to find her place Wonder Woman should find a new role for herself in the modern world, as a superhero! Her appearance in Batman v Superman, as well as the eventual Justice League movie should allow her the opportunity to do just that.

I'm sure that any similarities between our "pitch" and the actual film will be coincidental, and of course they may end up being completely different. Either way I'll be going to see it. What do you think? Will our predictions be proved correct?

Sunday, 8 November 2015

Top Ten Best Marvel Characters

Comics Should Be Good! have recently run a poll to find the Top 100 Marvel & DC Characters. Of course I voted. Like all superhero comic fans I'm insufferably arrogant and believe that I know better than every other fan, so I thought I'd present my own personal list.

This is the Marvel list. Check out my DC list here.

10. Spider-Man (Miles Morales)

Mike McKone

Where did Miles come in CSBG's list? #48

Who was #10 in CSBG's list? Cyclops

In 2000 Marvel launched an updated version of Spider-Man called Ultimate Spider-Man, free from from the baggage and contradictions of years of continuity. Ultimate versions of the X-Men, Fantastic Four and The Avengers (The Ultimates) soon followed. Despite the success, influence and (mostly) top-notch quality of the Ultimate Universe, by 2011 it was looking a little bogged down by, funnily enough, the baggage and contradictions of years of continuity. The Ultimate Universe was a Universe without a purpose.

And then writer Brian Bendis had the brilliant idea of killing off Peter Parker and creating a brand new Ultimate Spider-Man

Miles is an instantly likeable character. Unlucky, filled with self-doubt, and always trying, sometimes unsuccessfully, to do the right thing. In other words, classic Spider-Man. At the same time Miles is completely different from Peter Parker in a lot of ways. Peter, despite his heroic nature has always had a selfish streak that has often proved to be his undoing. Miles is possibly more purely heroic than Peter, and watching him get underestimated by a series of villains and heroes, only to see them left gobsmacked by his nobility and skill is a joy.

Sara Pichelli 

9. She-Hulk (Jennifer Walters)

Walt Simonson

Where did Jen come in CSBG's list? #18

Who was #9 in CSBG's list? Iron Man (Tony Stark) 

She-Hulk initially began as a rip-off her Incredible cousin, a female Hulk who changed into a savage brute whenever she lost her cool. After the demise of her own comic she joined the Avengers, where she was never really much more than 'third Avenger from the left'. It wasn't until writer/artist John Byrne had her join the Fantastic Four that she really came into her own. In the pages of FF and then her own relaunched series Byrne emphasised the one aspect of She-Hulk that really made her unique; unlike her cousin she likes being a Hulk and is able to use her power to be a force for good, and have a lot of fun. Shulkie remains one of the most unique characters in comics. In the past ten years writers Dan Slott and Charles Soule have played up her day job as a super-hero lawyer to great effect. Whether She-Hulk is extraditing Doctor Doom's son, questioning a ghost who's a witness to his own murder, or helping Spider-man to sue himself, her comics are always like nothing else on the shelves.

Javier Pulido

8. J.Jonah Jameson

John Romita

Where did Jolly Jonah come in CSBG's list? #91

Who was #8 in CSBG's list? Hulk (Bruce Banner) 

The best thing about J. Jonah Jameson (newspaper editor, Spidey's #1 detractor, and Peter Parker's boss) is that he's essentially an honourable, principled man who just happens to also be a massive arsehole. Over the years we've seen Jonah severely damage the credibility and the bank balance of the Daily Bugle with a crusade against Spider-Man that can only be described as petty. Jonah's vendetta has even seen him finance the creation of at least three super-villains; The Scorpion, The Fly, and the Spider-Slayer. His hatred of the "wall-crawling menace" stems not from a staunch belief in the dangers of vigilantism but from his own feelings of inadequacy and desire to pull the heroic Spidey down to his level. (This motive was established very early on in Spidey's history and was probably influenced by co-creator Steve Ditko's wacky Randian worldview.) And yet, Jonah is also shown to be a brilliant, incorruptible and fiercely honest newspaperman. He has often fought for civil rights and risked his life to expose corruption. He is a loving husband to his wife Marla (or at least he was until she was killed off), and despite his bluster he treats his employees like family members.

Funny, angry, honest, deceitful, greedy, generous, dangerous, heroic. J.Jonah Jameson is a complicated, multi-layered, and completely brilliant character.

Steve Ditko

7. The Human Torch (Johnny Storm)

Where did Johnny come in CSBG's list? #63

Who was #7 in CSBG's list? Thor (Odinson)

All the fans who moaned about Michael B. Jordan's casting as Johnny Storm in the recent Fantastic Four movie made me laugh. They insisted that their objections weren't motivated by racism but by a desire to stay true to the source material. When Stan Lee and Jack Kirby originally created Johnny they depicted him as a hot-headed, white, teen heart-throb. So by the moaners' logic the only truly faithful casting would have been Justin Bieber. Fanboys should be careful what they wish for.

These days Johnny is much more than a teen heart-throb. He is narcissistic, fame obsessed, and desperate to avoid responsibility and cling to his youth. He has been mothered his whole life by his older sister and as a result is always looking for a woman in his life to make him feel complete. He falls in love at the drop of a hat and is known for his intense but short relationships. While he is still fairly young he's already been married and divorced once, although to be fair his wife turned out to be a Skrull who gave birth to an egg that turned into a tentacled monster that tried to kill him. Despite being created in 1961 this perpetual man-child is truly a 21st Century hero. And yet, despite his immaturity Johnny is a hero through and through. He has sacrificed his life at least twice to save the world (he got better), and has literally gone to Hell and back for his family. Johnny mirrors the worst aspects of 21st Century Western culture, but hopefully we can try to mirror his best aspects.

Dale Eaglesham

6. The Invisible Woman (Sue Richards)

John Byrne

Where did Sue come in CSBG's list? #39

Who was #6 in CSBG's list? Magneto

Initially Stan Lee and Jack Kirby depicted Sue Richards as a delicate, naive flower, forever overshadowed by the huge personalities of her team mates. Since the '80s Sue has been much, much more. Sue is the matriarch of the entire Marvel Universe. Pretty much every other character in the Marvel Universe loves her and respects her. Her husband Reed (and father to her two children) has the science-brains but she has the wisdom. Technically Reed's the leader of the Fantastic Four, but he's perpetually distracted and constantly one bad mood away from becoming a super villain. Sue is the real leader and has been for years. She does more to look after the team and hold them together than he's ever done. Sue is a lioness. She is loving and nurturing and will rip out your spine if you try and harm a member of her family.

Sue's not just defined by her family however. She is one of the most powerful Marvel characters and is capable of taking on all of the Avengers at once in battle.  She is an Agent of SHIELD, an Ambassador to a race of long lost Atlanteans, and has an evil personality called Malice living in her head. While she loves her husband she also has a bit of a 'will-they-won't-they' thing going on with Prince Namor the Sub-Mariner. Both Reed and Namor are punching above their weight if you ask me.

Dale Eaglesham
5. Doctor Doom

Jack Kirby

Where did Doom come in CSBG's list? #5

Who was #5 in CSBG's list? Dr Doom

Victor Von Doom is the perfect Super-Villain. He's a mad scientist, an evil sorcerer, and a ruthless dictator. He's horribly scarred but incredibly charismatic. He's motivated by a noble desire to rescue his mother from Hell, and by his small minded, petty resentment of the only man who's cleverer than him, Reed Richards. If you put every single great villain from history and legend into a blender you would end up with Doctor Doom. He's such a great character that he now has his very own plot device to absolve him from crappy stories. Whenever he appears in a story that's anything less than spectacular, writers have taken to explaining that the Doom who featured in the disappointing tale was merely a 'Doombot', a robot minion created in Doom's likeness.

When Stan Lee and Jack Kirby created him, they created the ultimate, archetypal bastard, and the world loves a bastard.

Esad Ribic

4. The Thing (Ben Grimm)

John Byrne

Where did Ben come in CSBG's list? #11

Who was #4 in CSBG's list? Daredevil

It's weird how a so-called monster, with a hair-trigger temper and a grumpy demeanour, can be the one character in the Marvel Universe who everybody is friends with, even most of the villains. Every character respects Captain America, and every character ends up teaming up with either Wolverine or Spider-Man at some point. But Ben is the guy that every character wants to hang out with, either to play poker or have a drink. Perhaps it's because of the fact that, despite his monstrous appearance, frequent mood swings, and love of "clobberin", he's actually one of the most sensitive characters in the Marvel Universe. Like his friend Johnny Storm he falls in love very easily and is fiercely loyal to his friends and family. He has chosen to turn down possible cures for his monstrousness on more than one occasion in order to save lives.

It's very telling that when the Marvel heroes went to war with each other over the issue of Superhuman Registration, each side was desperate to get Ben on their side. It was as if having Ben on board would legitimise their point of view. It's also very telling that Ben refused to join either side and buggered off to France instead. Ben is, more than any other character, the heart and soul of the Marvel Universe.

Brad Walker

3. Iron Man (Tony Stark)

Mark Bright

Where did Tony come in CSBG's list? #9

Who was #3 in CSBG's list? Wolverine

Tony Stark is one of the most real characters in the Marvel Universe. By that I don't mean realistic, he is after all a guy who flies around in a metal suit that fits in a briefcase. And I don't mean that he's a character that's easy to identify with. Well, he might be if you're a billionaire who's one of the cleverest men in the world, but for the rest of us he's a man with a lifestyle that we can only dream of. When I say that Stark is 'real' I mean that he is one of the most fully-developed characters in comics. He's a complete character with motives, and fears, and desires, and flaws, and hidden aspects to his personality. Stark is proud of his wealth and success, and simultaneously ashamed of his privilege. He's ruthless enough to use people to achieve his goals but compassionate enough to feel awful about it. He's desperate to be loved and yet willing to make himself the bad guy in order to serve the greater good. He's constantly looking towards the future and is occasionally horrified by what he sees, but is just arrogant enough to think he can steer us all on the right path. He embraces pleasure as only a man on borrowed time can. He is an alcoholic. There aren't many characters in comics as fully developed as Stark (maybe John Constantine). If Tony Stark were any more real I'd be typing this on a Stark Industries laptop.

Jack Kirby

2. Mr Fantastic (Reed Richards)

John Byrne

Where did Reed come in CSBG's list? #35

Who was #2 in CSBG's list? Captain America

Reed Richards is a hero, a born leader, a super-genius and the Marvel Universe's ultimate father figure. But these factors are only part of what makes him so appealing. In the fifty+ years since Stan Lee and Jack Kirby created the Fantastic Four it's been pretty well established that Reed is just one bad day away from going completely batshit insane. Reed is the cleverest person on the planet and he's just one hissy fit away from deciding that everyone on Earth doesn't really know what they're doing and he'd be better off just taking over. There is of course one thing that keeps Reed grounded and stops him from crushing us all like the intellectual cockroaches we are. His family. The rest of the FF. Whenever Reed starts losing it, his wife, his brother-in-law, his best friend, his two children and sometimes even his deadbeat, time-travelling dad all manage to keep him on the straight and narrow. A man who can fit whole Universes into his brain but can't survive without his wife, kids, and best friends. There's something really beautiful about that. 

Esad Ribic

1. The Amazing Spider-Man (Peter Parker)

John Romita

Where did Pete come in CSBG's list? #1

Who was #1 in CSBG's list? Spider-Man (Peter Parker)

One of the first Spider-Man stories I ever read as a child ended with Spidey collapsing in an exhausted heap on his bed following a particularly intense battle with Electro. Nursing his burnt hands he says to himself "If this is a victory... I'd hate to be defeated." Even as a kid I realised this was miles away from Superman or Batman, but I didn't realise quite how different it was. I remember asking my dad if he had the next issue, where I assumed Spidey would pick himself up, solve his problems and win a decisive victory. I didn't realise that there was no second part to this story, this was Peter Parker's life! Even when he won he didn't really win.

Many Spidey stories over the years have begun with Pete acting out of anger or spite, or deciding to put himself first, or not thinking about the consequences of his actions. For me that's the wonderful thing about Pete. He makes mistakes, big mistakes. His origin revolves around him making a mistake, one with tragic consequences. Pete's not a hero because he always does the right thing. He's a hero because he tries to do the right thing and when he fails he faces up to his mistakes and does his best to make things right. That's the key to Spider-Man's popularity. He's not perfect, he's as flawed as us. But he never lets that stop him from trying to do the right thing, and neither should we.

Salvador Larroca


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